Why Salvadorans Don’t Like Mexicans

By Chance

Among humans there are always members of certain ethnic groups that don’t like certain members of other ethnic groups. And, Latinos are no exception when it comes to this. It is know that Mexicans and Salvadorans don’t always get along. Also Mexicans have a reputation of not getting along with Latinos who are from central and South American countries.

In America Mexican and Salvadoran immigrants sometimes argue, disrespect, and fight with each other. Why is this? There are reasons for this conflict between the two groups. According to Salvadorans Mexicans have an attitude that they are superior to Salvadoreans. Also, many Central and South Americans Latinos feel that Mexicans think that they are superior to other Latinos too.

When many Salvadoran women leave El Salvador and enter Mexico, some o9f these women get raped by Mexican men, beaten, called derogatory names because they come from El Salvador. Often these women are passing through Mexico headed for the United States of America to live in search of a better living standards.. Some come to Mexico to live in search of a better future.

These women write or call home to relatives in EL Salvadoran and tell them what happened. If they have relatives in America, when they get to America they tell them what happened. This makes a lot of Salvadoran men angry at Mexican men, and creates the tension and conflicts between the two. On top of that Mexican men feeling superior, and claiming they are better only makes things worse.

Mexican men also rape, disrespect, and beat women from other Central and South American countries when they also come to Mexico headed to the United States. Latinos both women and men from Central and South America need to be very careful when entering Mexico or any other country when trying to get to America. Talk to other Latinos in their home countries to find the safest way through Mexico so they can avoid being mistreated.     

The guns that are allowed people feel he will make it harder to purchase them due to strict requirements. Then some Americans feel that other people went and bout guns because they fear a race riot. With Obama being biracial and mixed with black ancestry certain whites feel blacks will become more bold and dangerous towards whites. I feel that many people bought guns for many reasons.

One of those reasons is some people fear a race war more than fear that Obama would create tougher gun laws. Gun stores throughout America have been interviewed by various news media agencies and reported that they have seen an incredible increase in gun sales.

Obama has said he will not take people’s shotguns away but at the sametime he said he favors common sense gun laws. African Americans and other ethnic groups might also go by more guns just in case then. I feel also that some of the white people, who went and bought guns in case of a race war, also voted for Obama themselves. Time will reveal.

Obama win triggers run on guns

By Howard Witt |  Tribune correspondent November 12, 2008 chicagotribune.com

HOUSTON — A week after the election of Barack Obama, gun buyers across the country are voting with their feet, flocking to gun stores to stock up on assault rifles, handguns and ammunition. Some say they are worried that the incoming Obama administration will attempt to reimpose the ban on assault weapons that expired in 2004. Others fear the loss of their right to own handguns.

A few say they are preparing to protect themselves in the event of a race war. But whatever the reason, gun dealers in red and blue states alike say they’ve never seen anything like the run on weaponry they’ve been experiencing since Election Day— surpassing even the panic buying in the days after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. "People are terrified of losing their right to protect themselves," said DeWayne Irwin, owner of Cheaper Than Dirt, a large gun store in Ft. Worth. 

"The volume is 10 times what we ever expected. It started with assault rifles, but at this point people are buying ammunition, high-capacity magazines, Glocks—it’s all flying off the shelf. With the economy the way it is, people are worried about instability. They are scared of civil unrest." There are no nationwide figures on gun sales available yet to document a post-election trend, and the number of pre-purchase background checks conducted by the FBI—a major barometer of national gun sales—actually rose more slowly through Oct. 31 of this year than during comparable periods in 2007 and 2006. 

But anecdotal reports from around the nation suggest the sudden surge of November gun-buying is far surpassing the normal hunting-season spike that often occurs this time of year. At the Memorial Shooting Center in Houston, which shares a building with a church, managers said they sold out of assault weapons a day after the election and are now adding new orders, at more than $1,000 each, to a monthlong waiting list. In Colorado, state authorities said they set a record for background checks on gun purchasers on the Saturday before the election—and the requests have been growing ever since.

 And in Obama’s home state of Illinois, business at gun stores is brisk. "We’ve had a lot of people concerned because our president-elect is extremely anti-gun and so is his running mate," said Jerry Bricco, owner of 1st Class Firearms in north suburban Zion. "They’re afraid of future gun bans and what you will be allowed to get." Not every gun enthusiast is so worried. Mark Greene, a hunter and member of Gun Owners for Obama who led a grass-roots campaign for the Democrat in Tarrant County, Texas, said he regarded fears of a looming ban on assault weapons as unfounded.

 "People are being pretty reactionary," Greene said. "There’s a small contingent of folks in and out of the gun-owning community concerned that Obama’s election is such a revolutionary change that it could portend mayhem. I think it’s hysteria." Obama’s record on gun rights is conflicting enough to give ammunition to either side.

 His campaign Web site said he "respects the constitutional rights of Americans to bear arms" and promised that he would "protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport and use guns." Seeking to reassure gun owners, Obama told a campaign audience in Ohio in October: "I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. 

I won’t take your handgun away." But Obama also has said he favors "common sense" gun laws, and as an Illinois state legislator he voted to support a ban on semiautomatic assault weapons and tighter restrictions on all firearms. He has said in the past that he opposes allowing gun owners to carry concealed weapons. And Obama’s controversial comment last April that some rural Americans "cling to guns or religion" in difficult times suggested to many gun owners that he was fundamentally hostile toward them. 

The sum of those positions prompted the National Rifle Association to warn its members during the campaign that Obama "would be the most anti-gun president in American history." Obama "says he’s in favor of common-sense gun laws," Irwin said. "Well, what people up north think is common sense is something different from us down here in Texas.

 The criminals have all this illegal stuff. I don’t want to fight them with a handgun if I can get an AK. I’m entitled to that. I should be able to defend my home." One expert sees a darker motive driving some post-election gun purchasers. "Why are white people buying assault weapons?" said Ben Agger, a sociology professor at the University of Texas at Arlington who wrote a book about the Virginia Tech slayings. 

"I almost hate to say it, but there is a deep-seated fear of the armed black man, because Obama now commands the military and other instruments of the justice system. They are afraid Obama will exact retribution for the very deep-seated legacy of slavery." Tribune reporter James Kimberly contributed to this report from Chicago. end

Michel’le

Born Michel’le Toussaint she is of Louisiana Creole heritage and a very talented R&B singer, and has a strong voice when she sings. When she speaks she has a squeaky child like voice that often that is different from her strong vocal ability. She was once the girlfriend of music producer Dr. Dre and they had a son together named Marcel. In the late 1980s she was singed to ruthless records, rapper Easy E owned ruthless records.

In 1989 she released her first album titled Michel’le which was produced by DR Dre. The album contained the song no more lies, and the hit singles “something in my heart and nicety”. In 1998 she released her second album “Hung Jury” but it created little attention and there was no number one hit song. When DR Dre left Death Row records Michel’le and Dre went their separate ways. Born Michel’le Toussaint she is of Louisiana Creole heritage. I feel that Michel’le does not get the right types of songs to sing.

In other words she has suffered from not having good writers write songs that will produce hits. And, she has not written any new number one hit songs on her own and put them on and album either. This may change in the future if she puts out another album or more songs. She is definitely talented.

“NO More Lies”

Did White Racists Vote For Obama?

Personally I believe that some whites who were racists also voted for Obama. Think about it, all of those whites who where conservatives, and voted for Barack Obama usually vote conservative, there is no doubt that some where probably racist. They chose Obama over the white conservative republican candidate John McCain.

What motivated them where a number of factors, the Iraq war, disagreement with some of the laws that president Bush got passed, and bad economy especially bad economy.
Some of them had personal reasons that motivated them to vote for Obama.

Among all those conservative whites who voted for Obama some of them had to have been racist. Not all just some. 

 Chance: Affirmative action will naturally disappear as the years roll on. Americans will determine when it should be removed in every state or maybe someday the government will do it with a federal law. It will not be around forever, but it has served a good purpose and the government was justified in creating it and signing it into law.

After Colorado loss, Ward Connerly may pull the plug on affirmative-action bans

The Colorado independent

By Naomi Zeveloff 11/7/08 7:47 AM  Coloradoindependent.com

 California businessman Ward Connerly says he is moving on to other issues after the defeat of his anti-affirmative action ballot measure. (Photo/American Civil Rights Institute)

Anti-affirmative-action guru Ward Connerly will likely halt his nationwide push to end race and gender preferences. Connerly, a part black California businessman, spoke with the Colorado Independent an hour after Amendment 46 toppled by an extremely thin margin.

The so-called Colorado Civil Rights Initiative was the first Connerly amendment to flop after making it onto a state ballot. It was also a key measure in Connerly’s Super Tuesday for Equal Rights campaign, a nationwide thrust to dismantle affirmative action programs in five states this year. In three of those states, the measure failed to make it onto the ballot, and Thursday, after a feverishly close tally, it collapsed in Colorado. Nebraska was the only state this year to approve the proposal.

In a wide-ranging, hour-long phone interview with The Colorado Independent, Connerly said he now intends to turn his focus to prison reform. He downplayed the importance of Colorado’s rejection of a ban on affirmative action programs, and also weighed in on President-elect Barack Obama’s historic win.

When asked how he planned to proceed now that Colorado voters had rejected Amendment 46, Connerly said that he might curb his 12-year-long effort, which produced wins in California, Michigan and Washington state in years past and in Nebraska this year. “Well, I love to read. I love to write. I do have other interests,” he said. “I would like to pursue those things. I would rather do those things than get involved in these initiatives.”

“Contrary to what is said, I don’t need this for my financial well-being. I don’t need it for my psychological well-being,” he added, referring to an allegation that he paid himself $7 million from the two nonprofits that funded his Super Tuesday for Equal Rights campaign. Connerly spent more than $350,000 in Colorado this year, according to campaign finance reports.

But rather than continue the fight against racial preferences, Connerly said he will focus on reforming the criminal justice system. He has developed a passion for the issue because, he said, “I know someone for whom I have great affection who is in this situation. I had to learn a lot more about the system than I ever knew before.”

Connerly said that in the past year, he has contributed “frequently and heavily” to Families against Mandatory Minimums, a national organization dedicated to changing sentencing laws. And he is a proponent of alternatives to incarceration, such as ankle monitors for some convicts.

“I don’t want to mislead you. I don’t want to say I am no longer going to be interested in race equality in our public policies,” he said. “I think this whole business of what we are doing to people who are incarcerated is far more pressing.”

However, Connerly would not concede that the weak returns over his “Super Tuesday” efforts to dismantle affirmative action prompted him to turn his focus to another issue. In fact he went back and forth on characterizing the Amendment 46 result as a loss.

“I sort of felt Wednesday morning at 4:15 a.m. that this would probably be defeated, and I congratulate the other side. We have a different perspective, and they waged a vigorous campaign. It got ugly with the character assassination, and I wish they hadn’t done that,” he said, referring to two Vote No radio ads that called Connerly a “carpetbagger” and were later pulled from the airwaves.

But then he said: “It is up to Jessica Peck Corry and others as to when or if they concede. I am proud of the campaign they waged. The people of Colorado have spoken, and with roughly a million votes on each side, it is hard to say that the issue is settled.” Connerly also credited Corry, the director of the Colorado Civil Rights Initiative, with convincing him to launch the proposal in Colorado. Corry did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment. But she refused to admit defeat in a Denver Post article, saying she wanted to wait for the last returns. Late Thursday afternoon, the Rocky Mountain News called the election with 96 percent of the votes in; 50.6 percent of Colorado voters said “no” while 49.4 said “yes.”

In spite of his ambiguity, Connerly did say that Amendment 46 — which performed astoundingly well in polls before the election — failed because Colorado voters were overwhelmed with the massive ballot.

“I think that the fact that there were so many initiatives on the ballot spoke volumes more about this issue than anything else,” he said. “There was a lot of voter fatigue in my view, and they said, ‘Let’s preserve the status quo,’ and they voted ‘no.’”

“A 50-50 vote does not tell either side anything at all. Nothing,” he added, when asked about the legacy of a Colorado loss. “I would not expect the opposition to run off the battlefield if the vote had been 50-50. Nor should they expect us to run away because because of the outcome that there is. You can’t make any decisions based on that kind of situation. Especially in view of the fact that Nebraska won as handily as it did.” Nebraska’s measure passed, 58 percent to 42 percent.

Connerly also said that Obama’s supporters in Colorado likely turned out against his initiative. “I believe that when you have a self-professed, quote, progressive running for president, and he is trying to turn out votes, well, on Election Day a number of those who never voted before were black, Latino and young. That’s what the exit polls clearly showed. Those people are more likely to be opposed to ending what is loosely called affirmative action. I think that is just indisputable.”

Connerly voted for Republican presidential candidate John McCain and said he donated $2,300 to his campaign, even though he was disappointed that McCain showed only lukewarm support for the anti-affirmative-action project. Connerly also said he gave $500 to Obama during the primary because he “was hopeful that Sen. Obama would push the ball up the field a little bit in trying to reduce America’s preoccupation with race.”

Connerly acknowledged the import of Obama’s victory: “This is a defining moment in American history, especially for black people. I didn’t cry as Jesse Jackson did Tuesday night as he witnessed this marvelous, marvelous moment with Sen. Obama making his acceptance speech. I didn’t cry. But I can understand the tears. My heart sang as much as everyone else’s.”

He said he was heartened to hear Obama, who supports affirmative action, tell ABC’s George Stephanopoulos in a 2007 interview that he doesn’t expect his well-off daughters to receive preferential treatment when they apply to universities. “We don’t benefit when people believe our skin color has something to do with who we are,” said Connerly. “Even when society thinks it is doing it for a good reason. You are not helping me. That is my view.”

Colorado voters, on the other hand, think affirmative action still has value. And Connerly won’t be back anytime soon to convince them otherwise.

“I am a pretty active guy, even at 69. And there are other things I would like to accomplish in my life,” he said. “For me to go and try to involve the Colorado Legislature in this issue, well that is not on my list of 100 things I would like to do.”

Stay tuned for more coverage of Colorado’s Amendment 46.

Shelby Steel is biracial and Barack Obama is biracial also, Steele seems to have some hidden dislike of Obama. He is always trying to find fault with Obama’s. I feel that Steele is jealous of Barack Obama’s fame and him being accepted by large numbers of both whites and blacks. He is also jealous because Obama is accepted by many white conservatives and many white who are conservative voted for him.

Shelby is a conservative writer/author who constantly attacks Obama in columns and interviews. He has little good to say about Obama, but many white conservatives have a lot of good to say about him. Steele is like many uncle Toms and angry blacks who attack black America to get some benefits from white conservatives. Benefits like book deals, interviews on conservative talk shows and television shows like Rush Limbaugh, jobs as columnist or bloggers, lecture circuit etc.

But now the reality is this, many republican conservative whites like Obama. Obama is not even an African American, his white mother was an American and father was a black man from Kenya, Africa. So his black ancestry is not of being a descendant of the survivor of black slaves. He therefore, is not an African American.

White conservative liked Obama’s ideas, opinions on various topics, charm, charisma, freshness, etc and therefore voted for him on Election Day. Steele and certain other angry black conservative bloggers, columnists, and voters are angry because white American conservatives have rejected them. Whites don’t view blacks and biracials who are mixed with black like Steele too highly, even though these types of blacks are conservative.

They view these as lower type people, because whites understand the motives of these types of blacks who pander to whites by talking bad about blacks to gain some benefits from whites. Yes conservative whites give them benefits, but at the same time they understand that — there is a moral short coming in these types of blacks like Shelby Steele who likes to pander.

Ask yourself, how come many black conservatives don’t run for the republican presidential nomination? It is because they know that many white conservatives will not vote for them. Steele is biracial just like Obama is biracial. How come Steele didn’t run for the republican presidential nomination? It probably is not because he didn’t want to. But because he knew it would have been a waste of time. He would not have been taken seriously by white conservatives and seen as smart as the white republican conservative candidates. Therefore, Steele would have been seen as semi inferior to the white candidates meaning white conservatives would have more trust in the intellect of a white man than a black conservative like Steele.

This that I’m saying is not false. Black conservative Allan Keyes is very intelligent and has been complimented for being very erudite. He ran for president in 1996, 2000, and 2008 he was never seen as a serious nominee by white conservatives and they always picked someone else instead of Keys. In August 2008 the Illinois Republican party asked Keyes to run against Barack Obama for the senate. Keyes lost the race and Obama became a senator. Keyes was intelligent and well educated but like many black conservatives he was not taken seriously by white conservative voters during his presidential run. Steele and blacks of his type can’t understand why whites regardless of their political background prefer Obama. It has nothing to do with politics only, it has to do with a uniqueness that Obama has when it comes to character.

He does not come across as angry, threatening, negative, anti white or anti any race, hate blacks, and Uncle Tom, pro black or pro white only. He offers white conservative a chance to express the good side of themselves that they have always wanted to express but couldn’t because most black or non white politicians they have met or seen do shoe have the unique character qualities that make white conservative feel comfortable showing the generous and compassionate side of themselves.

Martin Luther King jr. had unique character qualities (virtues) that many whites liked and this is what helped him win the civil rights movement. Whites will reciprocate with people who display these characteristics. Well Shelby Steele, many blacks like him, and many members of other ethnic groups don’t show these characteristics or else they would have gotten the same reaction from whites and other ethnic grounds that Obama gets.

This shows that there is a moral short coming on Shelby’s side. Jealousy is very painful and it is a sickness that eats away at the soul. Steele should be proud that Obama showed him that you don’t have to be a uncle Tom or lower type black conservative criticizing black to get benefits from whites in order to be admired by whites.

Go Obama!!!   

In this undated handout photo released by Bob Kitts, contractor Kitts, left, and homeowner Amanda Reece pose with money found at Reece’s home in Cleveland. The discovery amounted to little more than grief for Kitts, who couldn’t agree on how to split the money with Reece.

(AP Photo, Bob Kitts)

Cash found in Ohio house’s walls becomes nightmare By JOE MILICIA, Associated Press Writer Joe Milicia, Associated Press Writer   – Sat Nov 8 from (Ap — associated press)

CLEVELAND – A contractor who found $182,000 in Depression-era currency hidden in a bathroom wall has ended up with only a few thousand dollars, but he feels some vindication.

The windfall discovery amounted to little more than grief for contractor Bob Kitts, who couldn’t agree on how to split the money with homeowner Amanda Reece.

It didn’t help Reece much, either. She testified in a deposition that she was considering bankruptcy and that a bank recently foreclosed on one of her properties.

And 21 descendants of Patrick Dunne — the wealthy businessman who stashed the money that was minted in a time of bank collapses and joblessness — will each get a mere fraction of the find.

"If these two individuals had sat down and resolved their disputes and divided the money, the heirs would have had no knowledge of it," said attorney Gid Marcinkevicius, who represents the Dunne estate. "Because they were not able to sit down and divide it in a rational way, they both lost."

Kitts was tearing the bathroom walls out of an 83-year-old home near Lake Erie in 2006 when he discovered two green metal lockboxes suspended inside a wall below the medicine chest, hanging from a wire. Inside were white envelopes with the return address for "P. Dunne News Agency."

"I ripped the corner off of one," Kitts said during a deposition in a lawsuit filed by Dunne’s estate. "I saw a 50 and got a little dizzy."

He called Reece, a former high school classmate who had hired him for a remodeling project.

They counted the cash and posed for photographs, both grinning like lottery jackpot winners.

But how to share? She offered 10 percent. He wanted 40 percent. From there things went sour.

A month after The Plain Dealer reported on the case in December 2007, Dunne’s estate got involved, suing for the right to the money.

By then there was little left to claim.

Reece testified in a deposition that she spent about $14,000 on a trip to Hawaii and had sold some of the rare late 1920s bills. She said about $60,000 was stolen from a shoe box in her closet but testified that she never reported the theft to police.

Kitts said Reece accused him of stealing the money and began leaving him threatening phone messages. Marcinkevicius doesn’t believe the money was stolen but said he couldn’t prove otherwise.

Reece’s phone number has been disconnected, and her attorney Robert Lazzaro did not return a call seeking comment. There were no court records showing that Reece had filed for bankruptcy.

Kitts said he lost a lot of business because media reports on the case portrayed him as greedy, but he feels vindicated by the court’s decision to give him a share.

"I was not the bad guy that everybody made me out to be," Kitts said. "I didn’t do anything wrong."

He’s often asked why he didn’t keep his mouth shut and pocket the money. He says he wasn’t raised that way.

"It was a neat experience, something that won’t happen again," Kitts said. "In that regard, it was pretty fascinating; seeing that amount of money in front of you was breathtaking. In that regard, I don’t regret it.

"The threats and all — that’s the part that makes you wish it never happened."

(rap music made dark skin black men popular throughout the world) 

Have ever wondered what brought dark skin black men into style in America? They have only been in style since the 1990s. Light skin black men have always been in style in America. But dark skin black men and caramel brown skin black men have never really been in style on a major level in American society.

I will admit that caramel brown black men always been considered more in style than dark skin black men, but not as in style as light skin black men, yet above darker men.
Carmel brown skin black men have always occupied a place in the middle.

The pretty light skin has always been seen as prettier, handsome, and more intelligent. When I say light skin, I am talking about some who has caramel beige, yellow, beige, tan, or whitish skin. From slavery up until the 1980s light skin was seen as the most in style look for black men and women.

What brought dark skin black men and women into style was rap music. Rap music is a part of the hip hop culture, and in the late 1980s most of the hip hop artists were caramel brown skin and dark skin.

Hip hop took the world by storm and became popular fast. In the late 1980s gangster (gangsta) rap came out with groups like N.W.A. and Easy E. When the 1990s came around gantsa rap had replaced conscious rap and other rap type style as the most listened to rap.

Gangsta rap portrayed an image of a tough strong young black man and who often was dark skin or Caramel brown skin in rap videos. Most of the Gangsta rappers themselves on the early to mid 1990s were either dark skin or caramel brown skin.

This made darker black men and caramel brown black men look more masculine and popular in the eyes of Hip hop fans. LL cool Jay, Kool Moe D, Big Daddy Cane, Tupac (2pac), Biggie smalls, Snoop Dog, MOB Deep, and many other hip hop artist who portrayed a manly tough and sexy image helped dark skin blacks become popular in the eyes of the world.                   

So Hip Hop has done some good, and should be appreciated for the good it has done.

Breakfast At Roscoe’s Chicken And Waffles

(Got my eat on)

 I have heard many people in the past speak about how good the food at Roscoe’s chicken & Waffles is but I had never been there.

I went to Roscoe’s chicken and waffles this morning with a friend for breakfast. I ordered Herb’s special, the special comes with four pieces of chicken and gravy and two large waffles’ with syrup. I asked the waitress to please put my gravy on the side, and she came with our food and with the gravy in a small dish separate from the chicken.

I will have to admit it was a very good breakfast, the gravy was very good, and some bread, a glass of Lemonade, and the gravy would have been a good meal by itself. This is how good the gravy was. It was a beautiful morning here Los Angels (L.A.). The sun was shining people every where. After we finished our breakfast we sat there and talked for awhile.

Roscoe’s is also ethnically diverse, there where people from all ethnic/racial backgrounds coming and going. We all enjoyed the food and atmosphere of the restaurant.  

This was my first time ever eating at Roscoe’s chicken and waffle my friend took me here this morning. We were trying to decide on where to have breakfast, and he asked have I ever been to Roscoe’s chicken and waffles? I said no, so he took me. Roscoe’s is a black owned restaurant business. 

We later left and went out side, and stood in front of the car and talked some more. Then we got in the ride and left. It was a good morning here in L.A. good food and good conversation with a friend.

Cali is so fly!!!    

Jay Edgar Hoover

The evidence that former FBI director was mixed with black is very strong. His physical appearance also hints that he was mixed with black, Hoover had a quadroon phenotype. Author Gore Vidal remembers growing up in Washington D.C. back in the 1930s and that in Washington D.C. many people refered to Hoover as a mulatto.  

Author Anthony Summers interviewed Gore Vidal regarding the life of Jay Edgar Hoover and his ancestry. 
Gore Vidal:  "Hoover was becoming famous,"   "and it was always said of him–in my family and around the city–that he was mulatto. People said he came from a family that had `passed.’. . . That’s what was always said about Hoover."

Author Anthony Summers, in his 1993 book Official and Confidential, cites two examples. A New York Post reporter, researching J. Edgar Hoover, found that blacks referred to Hoover as "some kind of spook" and even "soul brother," and came to realize that in black communities in the East, it was generally believed that Edgar had black roots (Summers, pp. 349-350).

The reason it is so hard to find out the origins of Hoover’s birth is because — it was said that Hoover changed his birth certificate records. It is believed that on his birth certificate he was labeled black (or maybe mulatto) but not white. 

Also by changing his government birth certificate record he could disassociate himself with the Hoovers who were mixed with black which is the side of the Hoover family it is believed he came from, and associate himself with the Hoovers who where white.

If Hoover was a mulatto (mixed race) he did what he did to avoid being a victim of the one drop rule (ODR). The one drop rule that says anyone with recent black ancestry is to be classified as black and a member of the black race.

This would have sent Hoover to the inferior status of American society. So it was natural for Hoover to try and avoid this mistreatment. The fear of being found out also caused Hoover to hate his black ancestry because he felt it was a hindrance if people knew his family background.

It is also rumored that Hoover was a homosexual. 

This explains why Hoover disliked blacks so much. Seeing blacks reminded him that he had black ancestry. The one drop rule was heavily responsible for Jay Edgar Hoover’s behavior.  If it was not for the one drop rule Hoover, and mixed race people like him would were allowed to have theri own separate communities and ethnic Identiy Hoover possibly would have grown comfortable being a mulatto as long as he was not forced into blackness only. 

Hoover accomplishment as a powerful FBI director does show the uniqueness of the mulattoes. It shows that Hoover was intelligent and educated and not inferior certain whites have tried to portray people mixed with black.     

     
`Black Like Me’?
The Strange Saga of J. Edgar Hoover
by Edward Spannaus

J. Edgar Hoover, the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation from 1924 to 1972, was notorious for his targetting of black leaders, whether in civil rights, elected officials, or other areas such as black newspaper publishers, or the singer Paul Robeson. Newly discovered evidence now sheds more light on Hoover’s legendary fear and hatred of African-Americans, suggesting that this may have been a form of self-hatred on Hoover’s part.

As we will show, rumors that J. Edgar was partially black were commonplace in Washington, D.C. during Hoover’s reign, and were well known to associates of Hoover–and even to Hoover himself. But a new book shows that stories that Hoover was "passing for white" were also being passed down from generation to generation a thousand miles away, through a former slave family, once owned by another Hoover family, in the area of McComb, Mississippi.

We present here some preliminary findings, of an ongoing historical investigation.
Operation Fruehmenschen

In 1988, Rep. Mervyn Dymally (D-Calif.) placed before the House of Representatives a sworn affidavit from a Special Agent of the FBI, Hirsch Friedman, exposing an FBI program called "Operation Fruehmenschen" (German for "primitive man"). Friedman’s affidavit declared:

"The purpose of this policy was the routine investigation without probable cause of prominent elected and appointed black officials in major U.S. metropolitan areas. It was explained to me that the basis for this Fruehmenschen policy was the assumption by the FBI that black officials were intellectually and socially incapable of governing major governmental organizations and institutions."

In Ad Hoc Democratic Platform Hearings, held in Washington, D.C. on June 22, former Tennessee judge and legislator Ira Murphy testified about Operation Fruehmenschen, which he has studied extensively. Judge Murphy said that the operation began under Richard Nixon and J. Edgar Hoover, and it has continued since that time. Judge Murphy said that more than 300 black and minority officials have been investigated by the FBI and the Justice Department.

Hoover’s obsession about blacks was well known. In 1956, in the wake of the Supreme Court’s school desegregation decisions, Hoover fought with Attorney General Herbert Brownell, Jr. over Brownell’s proposals for new civil rights laws and enforcement provisions. Hoover declared that "the specter of racial intermarriage" was behind the tensions over "mixed schooling," and he attacked the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and other civil rights organizations, while praising the White Citizens Councils in the South. It was also in 1956 that Hoover launched the FBI’s Cointelpro (Counter-Intelligence Program) which targetted civil rights groups and leaders among others. (See Curt Gentry, J. Edgar Hoover: The Man and the Secrets [New York: Norton, 1991].)

And as early as 1957, Hoover ordered his agents to monitor Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and King’s Southern Christian Leadership Conference, when the SCLC began a campaign to register eligible black voters in the South. By the beginning of the 1960s, the FBI was routinely carrying out illegal break-ins of SCLC offices, and wiretapping King.

Hoover’s obsession with destroying King–or, in Bureau-speak, "neutralizing" him–became notorious. Thus it was no surprise that jubilant cries of "They got the SOB!" reverberated through the Atlanta FBI office when the news first came over the radio that Dr. King had been shot in Memphis on April 4, 1968 (Gentry, p. 606). One former FBI agent recalled another agent shouting "We finally got the son of a bitch!" (See Anthony Summers, Official and Confidential: the Secret Life of J. Edgar Hoover [New York: Putnam, 1993], p. 364.)

It is of note that on March 4, 1968, FBI Headquarters issued a memorandum expanding its Cointelpro activities against "Black Nationist–Hate Groups" and warning that Dr. King, among others, could emerge as a " `messiah’ who could unify and electrify the black nationalist movement." The memorandum called for the use of "imaginative" techniques, and required a report on accomplishments within 30 days. On April 4, Dr. King was assassinated. Hoover’s cooperation with military intelligence units conducting surveillance and more deadly operations against King has been established. (See William Pepper, Orders to Kill: The Truth Behind the Murder of Martin Luther King, Jr. [New York: Warner, 1998].)
What Did Washington and Mississippi Know?

Rumors of J. Edgar Hoover’s black ancestry were widespread during his reign, both inside and outside of the Bureau. Hoover in fact deployed his agents to track down rumors of his racial origins, just as he did regarding rumors of his homosexuality.

Author Anthony Summers, in his 1993 book Official and Confidential, cites two examples. A New York Post reporter, researching J. Edgar Hoover, found that blacks referred to Hoover as "some kind of spook" and even "soul brother," and came to realize that in black communities in the East, it was generally believed that Edgar had black roots (Summers, pp. 349-350).

Summers also interviewed writer Gore Vidal, who grew up in Washington, D.C. in the 1930s. "Hoover was becoming famous," Vidal told Summers, "and it was always said of him–in my family and around the city–that he was mulatto. People said he came from a family that had `passed.’. . . That’s what was always said about Hoover."

In the late 1950s, a young black girl in Mississippi came home from school and asked her grandfather about J. Edgar Hoover, whom her history class had been studying. The increasingly frightened young girl was told that, yes, J. Edgar was related to her family, and that he was passing for white. "This is a family secret," the girl was told. Her grandfather went on to tell her that Hoover had a lot of power, that Hoover was the grandfather’s second cousin, and the youngster was warned not to ever tell anyone this, because Hoover could have them all killed. "He doesn’t want the secret out, and he is a powerful man!" the trembling young girl was told.

When the young girl asked if there wouldn’t be records, such as a birth certificate, which would show him to be related to the family of former slaves, her grandfather told her: "J. Edgar Hoover has a lot of power. He can destroy files, and he’s already done it."

The young girl was Mildred McGhee, whose family lived in Pike County, Mississippi, on the site of the former plantation of a Hoover family. According to her account, a mixture of the family’s oral history and reconstructed memories, the Washington Hoovers, a mixture of black and white, were related to the Mississippi Hoovers. The part of the family’s oral history which was very specific, and oft repeated, was that she and her family are descended from the union of a slave woman and the slave woman’s master, which resulted in the birth of a daughter in 1814 in Virginia, who was named Elizabeth Allan.

Elizabeth, according to the oral history, was taken to Maryland by a Hoover man. Her first born was Emily, very light-skinned, who was taken away from her to Mississippi, where she became the mistress of a plantation owner William Hoover, and bore many children by him. Meanwhile, according to the oral tradition, Elizabeth, still in the Maryland/D.C. area, married a William Hoover, and passed for white, and had seven children.

Millie had heard rumors that J. Edgar himself was not the son of Dickerson N. Hoover of Washington, as is officially reported, but that he was born in the South, probably New Orleans, and then taken to Washington, D.C. at a very young age, and raised there by the Hoover family.

In November 1998, Millie McGhee, by now an educator in California, retained a genealogist, George Ott of Heritage Consulting in Salt Lake City, Utah, to assist her in attempting to document her family history, and to see if there were any links to J. Edgar Hoover. Through his research, Ott found that many aspects of Millie’s story bore a remarkable correspondence to the documentary record.

This spring, McGhee published her recollections and her preliminary findings in a book entitled Secrets Uncovered: J. Edgar Hoover–Passing for White? (Rancho Cucamonga, Calif.: Allen-Morris, 2000). The book contains a fictionalized version of the family history along with the results of the first phases of genealogical research. A second, revised edition will be published in August.

Ott, the genealogist, found that some records coincided quite well with Millie’s oral history. For example, the 1860 census for Washington, D.C. shows a William Hoover, born 1804 in Maryland, married to Elizabeth A., born 1814 in Virginia. They have seven children, including a son John T. Hoover who who has a child named Dickerson N. Hoover (the father of J. Edgar Hoover).

In subsequent research, conducted since the publication of the first edition of McGhee’s book, Ott has found some census records for Mississippi that also correspond to the family oral tradition regarding "Emily," and he has recently found records which appear to link the Maryland and the Mississippi Hoover families. Ott also found strange–and highly unusual–alterations and erasures in some of the census records pertaining to other Hoovers in Washington.
Who Was J. Edgar?

This writer has confirmed that there are substantial discrepancies and oddities concerning J. Edgar Hoover’s early biography. McGhee and Ott located the birth records index for Washington, D.C. for 1895, in which J. Edgar Hoover’s name was obviously added later than the other entries. Not only is it in different handwriting, but the format is different: The other entries give only the parents’ names; Edgar’s entry adds not only the child’s name, but that he was male, white, and the date of birth.

This writer obtained a copy of Edgar’s actual birth certificate, which was not filed until 1938. Edgar’s own family history, written when he was 17, says that he was born Jan. 1, 1895, at home, with a doctor in attendance. It was legally required to report a birth, but if the doctor was present, he failed to do so. The verification of birth is provided by an affidavit by Edgar’s older brother Dickerson, himself a U.S. government official; it does not mention a doctor being present.

Hoover was baptized when he was 13, under the tutelage of his brother Dickerson, who took him from one church to another, looking for the most prestigious congregation. His birth certificate, obtained by EIR, shows the date of birth to be June 1, 1895, not January.

There is also the issue of photographs. The most famous photograph of J. Edgar as a young child is the oval "family photograph," published in most biographies of Hoover. However, around 1989, the curators of the exhibit in the J. Edgar Hoover Room at the Scottish Rite Masonic Temple in Washington changed the identification of the child to Edgar’s brother Dickerson, not Edgar, and it is now so identified in the exhibit in the Hoover Room.

So far, there is no "smoking gun," so to speak, and there may never be, given Hoover’s known penchant for altering historical records concerning himself, even those in the National Archives (Gentry, pp. 389-390).

But taken together with the prevalent rumors in Washington, and the oral history of Millie McGhee’s Mississippi family, the discrepancies in Hoover’s own documentary history suggest that Hoover was hiding something.

McGhee herself says her book is not intended as an exposé of J. Edgar Hoover, and indeed, she says she never wanted to be related to him. "I don’t want him to be related to me," she says, but she adds that, since it now seems that he was, "I want to be the one to erase the hate."

Eradicating the legacy of J. Edgar Hoover in the FBI and the Justice Department, would be a good place to start.

Didi Lima GOP official Removed For Racial Remarks

Didi Lima: "We don’t want (Hispanics) to become the new African-American community," Lima told The Associated Press. "And that’s what the Democratic Party is going to do to them, create more programs and give them handouts, food stamps and checks for this and checks for that. We don’t want that."
My response: Didi really embarrassed herself with this remark. Hispanics in general are very dependent on welfare, government programs, food stamps, government housing vouchers, and all kinds of special services that the America government has to offer.

One of the major reasons the state of California is in debt, is because the large legal and illegal Latino population of Mexicans, South and Central Americans have put a strain on government money and programs. When it comes to welfare, government housing, welfare, uninsured medical health so Latinos have to use state government general hospitals and free clinics, drug usage, alcoholisms, Latinos having too many children than they can afford, too many Latinos in California’s prison system and Latinos out number all other ethnic groups in the prison system in California, California has to build more and more schools because more and more Latino children are in the school system and many are poor, high crime rate among Latinos, and many other problems and dependency on the government for various things that Hispanics (Latinos) go through and utilize.

It is not just California that is experiencing this problem with the growing Hispanic population, in Oregon, Washington state, Arizona, Colorado, Texas, Illinois, Florida, New York, New Jersey, Arkansas, and many other states and towns where the Hispanic population especially Hispanics of Mexican descent. The Hispanic population of America in general have the same social ills that afflict the African American population.

On top of that Hispanics have many illegal immigrants, and this creates another problem for them, and blacks don’t have this problem. Many Hispanic immigrants struggle to learn English and blacks already speak English. So Hispanics have many of the same problems blacks have, and even have some problems black don’t have. The Hispanic population actually follow in the foot steps to some degree of the black population when it comes to fighting for equality, justice, opportunity, civil rights, etc. The younger generation of Latinos (Hispanics) prefer black culture over white culture; many younger Latinos prefer black culture over the general Latino culture that they grew up in. They enjoy the black sub culture and black general culture so much.

Didi was doing what many other non whites have been doing for the longest, and that is pandering to white racism by mentioning blacks and the Democrats.       

                               

Didi Lima: "I’m very much afraid that the Democratic Party is going to do the same thing that they did with the African-American culture and make them all dependent on the government and we don’t want that," she said.

My response: Hispanics are not forced to vote or prefer Democrats over Republicans. They vote and prefer Democrats because the Democrats have done more in city, state, and federal politics to help address, and try to remedy problems that affects the Hispanic population. Republicans in general have always catered to the white conservative population and big business corporations. The African American culture is protected like all non white cultures are by the government. In America Asian, Hispanic, Native American, Pacific Islander, and all non white cultures are protected by the American government to some degree. Long ago only white culture was overwhelmingly protected by the government, and look at some of the evil certain whites acted towards non whites back then.

Remember Didi, the younger Hispanic generation prefers black culture over white culture in general just look around and see, which culture they publicly display. Many younger Hispanics in their teenage years, twenties, and thirties participate in black culture regardless of whether it is positive or negative aspect of black culture. They do it because they receive some kind of happiness and joy from it. The reason many whites are angry with blacks is — because the black population, has been the most successful ethnic group when it comes to defeating a white supremacy power structure that is gradually loosing power.

Blacks are considered the strongest of all non white ethnic groups when it comes to fighting back against racist white hegemony, and this is why certain whites are always preoccupied with trying to slow down blacks. The big question is why is the Hispanic population increasing so rapidly in America?

The reason is simple, in many Latino countries the governments are not able to take care of their people, too much corruption and injustices, lack of opportunities, bad economy, political oppression, poverty, and a whole host of other problems. They come to America and enjoy the civil rights, educational opportunities, freedoms, etc that blacks (and those mixed race people who are mixed with black too) won for themselves, and all non whites. Many non whites leave their countries to come live in America so they can benefit from all of the privileges and rights that black won for them. Why not stay in your own country like blacks stayed in America and turn your country around?

But I say people are welcomed to come here to America and live, and receive all of the benefits that this country has to offer. Anyone can be in a situation where they may have to leave their country to go seek a better life in another country. It is quite normal to do so.

Hispanic as a collective currently are poorer than African Americans, and African Americans as a collective are poorer than whites. So Didi remember Hispanics are dependent on the government more than blacks because Hispanics as a population poorer people. Also, the whole country is dependant of the government right now. Many middle class people have lost their homes regardless of their ethnic background; many banks have gone out of business and the government had to take over some banks to make sure the people got their money, many Wall Street investment companies are doing bad financially and the government had to get involved to help sort out this finical mess. All of these businesses, banks, Wall Street investors, etc all turned to the government for help. You see Didi the majority of Americans, and businesses turn to the federal government for help when they can’t handle it anymore.

Notice a lot of conservative Republican politicians support big corporations and big businesses, and when there was trouble with these banks, mortgage companies, Wall street investors, etc notice they turned to the federal government for financial help. So it is not just the Democrats and blacks receiving help from the government its conservative republicans, corporations, Hispanics, Asians, all non whites, Americans, legal immigrants, and illegal immigrants, other courtiers needing foreign Aid from the American government, and many others.

Think about all this next time before you make a claim about who the government take care of Didi. Also if you got the government on your side you are in good shape, because the government has the law, military, FBI, CIA, secret police, and other law enforcement groups under its control.   

GOP official removed for racial remarks
Posted 9/28/2008 3:24 PM

Usatoday.com

LAS VEGAS (AP) — The spokeswoman for the Republican Party in Nevada’s most populous county was removed from her post Saturday, after she said the Democratic Party made black people "dependent on the government."

Didi Lima, the Clark County GOP communications director, also was removed from her volunteer role as a Hispanic community liaison for Republican John McCain’s presidential campaign over the remarks made earlier in the day while working at a McCain campaign booth.

"We don’t want (Hispanics) to become the new African-American community," Lima told The Associated Press. "And that’s what the Democratic Party is going to do to them, create more programs and give them handouts, food stamps and checks for this and checks for that. We don’t want that."

"I’m very much afraid that the Democratic Party is going to do the same thing that they did with the African-American culture and make them all dependent on the government and we don’t want that," she said.

In August, Lima was named co-chair of McCain’s Nevada Hispanic Leadership Team, which aimed to reach out to a crucial voting bloc in a state where polls show McCain in a dead heat with Barack Obama.
"Didi Lima is no longer a part of this campaign, her comments don’t reflect Senator McCain’s beliefs and are not tolerated on his campaign," McCain spokesman Rick Gorka said after learning about her remarks.
Lima is the second Republican Party official to land in hot water this week over comments perceived as inflaming tensions between blacks and Hispanics.

The chairman of the Republican Party in New Mexico’s most populous county resigned Thursday, nearly a week after saying "Hispanics consider themselves above blacks" and won’t vote for Obama.
Fernando C de Baca had been urged to resign for days by members of his own party.
Clark County Republican Party Chairman Bernie Zadrowski said he was "appalled" by Lima’s remarks. Lima was appointed party spokeswoman in late July.

"She was speaking for herself, not the Clark County Republican Party," Zadrowski said. "And she won’t be speaking for the Clark County Republican Party anymore."
Obama campaign spokeswoman Kirsten Searer said the remarks were "proof of how out of touch John McCain and Republicans are with the issues facing all Americans today."
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Lenny Kravitz said: "mixed people should realize we are all black and get over it."

Why would musician Lenny Kravitz say such a thing? In order to understand Lenny’s statement we would have to observe Lenny’s physical appearance, and how he has been treated in America based up on his phenotype. Lenny is biracial, his mother was Roxie Roker a black actress, and his father was film producer Seymour Kravitz who was white. Both of his parents are now deceased (died).

Lenny in physical appearance looks mixed race, but leans more towards looking black, and currently in America any biracial who shows visible signs of black ancestry is seen as black. So when he said that mixed race people should realize they are black and get over it, he was mainly speaking from his own personal experience.

He is seen as black in America, and faces all of the racial discrimination that blacks go through. His biracial status of having a white father does not protect him from racism that is directed towards him because he is part black visibly. Maybe if he was one of those biracial’s who look white or could pass for another race his view about mixed race (biracials) would be different and he would not have said what he said.

So Lenny was speaking from his personal experience of being a biracial who is seen as black. He meant no harm when he made that Statement. Our personal experiences, culture, ideas, and feelings shape us.

By John M. Glionna and Youkyung Lee, Special to The Times (Los Angeles Times latimes.com)

Tuesday, October 7, 2008

Won Jeong-hwa

SUWON, SOUTH KOREA -- She’s called the Mata Hari of North Korea, a temptress-spy who for years used her sensual charms to seduce South Korean military officers into giving up secrets.

The method was potentially lethal: Won Jeong-hwa reportedly plotted to assassinate South Korean agents with poisoned needles provided by handlers from Pyongyang.

The 34-year-old North Korean native was arrested during the summer along with her 63-year-old stepfather and accused of engaging in espionage and deceit for seven years after defecting to South Korea. Under questioning, she detailed for investigators a double life working for one of the world’s most repressive regimes.

The case of Won, only the second North Korean spy to face trial here in the last decade, has riveted the South Korean public and embarrassed the nation’s vaunted intelligence network. The press has dubbed her Mata Hari, after the notorious dancer-turned-World War I agent.

After arriving in 2001 at Seoul’s Incheon airport, Won was touted by South Korean authorities as a model defector and assigned to tour military bases to lecture troops on the evils of the Stalinist state.

All the while, prosecutors said, she pursued her real agenda: collecting photos of military installations and weapons systems and keeping lists of North Korean defectors and personal data about Southern military officers.

North denies association

The life and motives of Won remain a mystery. Was she a major North Korean operative, as authorities claim? Or merely a hapless former thief brainwashed by the North to provide information that amounted to nothing more than what could be found on the Internet, as her court-appointed lawyer insists?

North Korea denies that Won, who is awaiting sentencing, was its agent, calling her "human scum" and describing the case as a "threadbare charade" to embarrass the North, which has remained technically at war with the South since their conflict ended in an armistice in 1953.

Last week, Won appeared in a crowded courtroom in Suwon as a three-judge panel considered her fate. Dressed in prison-issue top and pants, her hair tied in a ponytail, she avoided eye contact with observers and focused on the judges as the prosecutor read a long list of charges against her.

One of her main missions, the prosecution said, was to locate Hwang Jang-yop, the highest-ranking North Korean defector, who is guarded by police against assassination attempts.

Many say the case, reminiscent of the darkest days of the Cold War, raises questions about how many North Korean spies might be operating in the South. About 4,500 Northern operatives have been exposed since 1948.

"This is only the tip of the iceberg," said Dong-bok Lee, a former South Korean intelligence officer. "And apparently these planted North Korean agents have been very free to go about their work."

During the hourlong hearing, Won, the mother of a 7-year-old, pleaded for leniency, her voice breaking in the hushed courtroom.

"I wanted to turn myself in but I couldn’t, because my family is in the North and they could be executed," she sobbed. "Please let me live with my daughter while I repent myself."

Won has told investigators that she is a second-generation North Korean spy — the youngest daughter of an operative killed during an espionage mission in the South.

Authorities say she served time for theft in the North and feared she would be executed. She fled to China but soon returned and was recruited by North Korea’s National Security Agency.

Her first assignment as a spy was to return to China to identify and send back home — to certain imprisonment or death — fellow North Koreans there who were trying to defect to the South.

While in China, she became pregnant by a South Korean businessman she met there.

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Arriving in disguise

Won came to South Korea later that year disguised as a Chinese Korean looking for her baby’s father.

She had considered an abortion but was persuaded by handlers to have the baby as a way to dispel suspicion in the South, according to South Korean press reports.
After passing the detailed debriefing all defectors undergo at the hands of South Korea’s National Intelligence Service, Won was assigned the task of delivering anti-North lectures at military bases.

Over the next year and a half, she gave scores of talks to soldiers, employing North Korean propaganda videos. Won used the occasions to befriend and seduce South Korean military officers, authorities say.

In all, Won maintained romantic relations with three or four officers and used sex as a tool, investigators said.

They also say she lived with a 26-year-old South Korean army captain who knew she was a spy. He too was arrested.

Won traveled to China a dozen times over five years to report to Northern authorities and receive instructions and the needles she was to use to kill South Korean agents, authorities said.

She was arrested in August, three years after South Korean agents began monitoring her because of a report by a military officer she had approached for information.

Many have doubts about the extent of Won’s spying, including some defectors with insight into the regime in Pyongyang.

"It is probably true that she received espionage orders from North Korea. But she doesn’t seem one of those special spy agents who are dispatched directly by the government," said Zhu Sung-ha, who fled the North in 2001. "She may have approached North Korean agents to make money."

Others say that in any case, Won seriously damaged the cause of the 15,000 legitimate North Korean defectors now living in the South.

"There’s already a deeply embedded reluctance by South Korean society to accept these people. Now there’s an excuse for people to give in to their worst instincts," said Tim Peters, a Christian activist and founder of Helping Hands Korea, a defector support group.

"People may use this spy case in an amplified and exaggerated way to say: ‘This is what we were afraid of. Let’s put on the brakes and protect our economy rather than help those poor North Korean relatives sitting on our doorstep.’ "

Death penalty possible

Though Won could receive the death penalty when she is sentenced Oct. 15, South Korean authorities are seeking far lesser punishment.

In court, the prosecution asked for a five-year sentence, saying it believed Won regretted her spying. "The accused has been quite cooperative in investigations, repenting deeply her past. Her statements helped us arrest her stepfather," the prosecuting attorney said.

Asked by the judge to make a final statement, Won muttered incoherently in a shaky voice. She eventually wept, citing "[emotional] pains in [her] heart."

But her written statements to investigators present a more forthright case to save her life.

"I endured difficult training and worked hard to carry out missions as an agent, believing that rendering loyalty [to the North’s leader] is everything," she wrote. "But while living in the South, I started to have doubts about the North Korean regime, and my mind was in emotional conflict."

She added: "It is my sin to have been born in the North."

Authorities say Won Jeong-hwa, 34, served time for theft in the North and feared she would be executed. She fled to China but soon returned and was recruited by North Korea’s National Security Agency. A guilty verdict in her case will result in either several years in prison or execution. (Getty Images)

A photo released by investigators shows evidence collected in the case of suspected spy Won Jeong-hwa. Won is accused of being the Mata Hari of North Korea, a temptress who for years used her sensual charms to seduce secrets from South Korean military officers.

I feel that deep down inside of many of these black women that they have a strong preference to be with a black man. What may have happened is that when they looked for the intelligent, educated, and responsible black men but couldn’t find them, and when they saw one he was already taken by another woman. The result of this is, that they settled for a white man or a man from another race who was educated, intelligent, and responsible.

So these black women lash out with criticism at black men who are married to white women or women from another race. It is really, in many cases a secret admiration of black men that make certain black women married to white men and men from other ethnic groups lash out.

A black man or black woman has a presence that can be felt when he or she walks into a room. A unique aura that stands out. Being black or mixed with black does cause people to take notice or you more especially females regardless of their ethnic background. More and more black men should become responsible, hard working, and intelligent. I say also date who you want and marry who you want, and enjoy life.

The new racial divide

The New Racial Divide (Poll Shows Gap Between Blacks And Whites Over Racial Discrimination)

By CHARLES BABBINGTON, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) — Since the nation’s birth, Americans have discussed race and avoided it, organized neighborhoods and political movements around it, and used it to divide and hurt people even as relations have improved dramatically since the days of slavery, Reconstruction and legal segregation.

Now, in what could be a historic year for a black presidential candidate, a new Associated Press-Yahoo! News poll, conducted with Stanford University, shows just how wide a gap remains between whites and blacks.

It shows that a substantial portion of white Americans still harbor negative feelings toward blacks. It shows that blacks and whites disagree tremendously on how much racial prejudice exists, whose fault it is and how much influence blacks have in politics.

One result is that Barack Obama’s path to the presidency is steeper than it would be if he were white.

Until now, social scientists have not closely examined racial sentiments on a nationwide scale at a moment when race is central to choosing the next president. The poll, which featured a large sample of Americans — more than 2,200 — and sophisticated survey techniques rarely used in media surveys, reflected the complexity, change and occasional contradictions of race relations.

More whites apply positive attributes to blacks than negative ones, and blacks are even more generous in their descriptions of whites. Racial prejudice is lower among college-educated whites living outside the South. And many whites who think most blacks are somewhat lazy, violent or boastful are willing or even eager to vote for Obama over Republican John McCain, who is white.

The poll, however, shows that blacks and whites see racial discrimination in starkly different terms. When asked "how much discrimination against blacks" exists, 10 percent of whites said "a lot" and 45 percent said "some."

Among blacks, 57 percent said "a lot" and all but a fraction of the rest said "some."

Asked how much of America’s existing racial tension is created by blacks, more than one-third of white respondents said "most" or "all," and 9 percent said "not much." Only 3 percent of blacks said "most" or "all," while half said "not much at all."

Nearly three-fourths of blacks said white people have too much influence in American politics. Only 12 percent of whites agreed. Almost three times as many blacks as whites said blacks have too little influence.

Far more blacks than whites say government officials "usually pay less attention to a request or complaint from a black person than a white person."

One in five whites have felt admiration for blacks "very" or "extremely" often. Seventy percent of blacks have felt the same about whites.

The poll may surprise those who thought Obama’s appeal to young voters proves Americans in their 20s and 30s are clearly less racially biased than their parents. The survey found no meaningful differences among age groups in whites’ perceptions of blacks, although older whites appear more likely to discuss their views.

Some findings fall into the glass half-empty or half-full category. One-fourth of white Democrats ascribed at least two negative attributes to blacks. But two-thirds of those Democrats said they will vote for Obama.

That finding alone could nourish a debate about how much harm is done by racial prejudices that seem to have modest influence on how people behave.

Kelly Edmondson, 34, of Cincinnati, is a white Democrat enthusiastic about backing Obama. The country needs a new direction, she said, and "I feel like he can reach a lot of people."

She cares for her two sets of young twins during the day and teaches college at night; most of her students are black. In the survey, Edmondson said positive words such as "hardworking" and "intelligent" describe most blacks "very well." She said a few negative traits, such as "lazy" and "irresponsible," apply "somewhat well" to most blacks.

In a telephone interview, Edmondson said those attributes apply equally to all races. She fretted that some of her fellow Ohioans might be less candid, privately planning to vote for McCain when they publicly say they are "on the fence."

"I worry about that," she said.

Polls consistently show Obama running about even with McCain, or leading by a notably smaller margin than the one Democrats enjoy over Republicans in most generic surveys about which party is best suited to govern.

The AP-Yahoo News poll suggests that racial prejudice could cost Obama up to 6 percentage points this fall. That’s a big hurdle in a nation whose last two presidential elections were decided by much smaller margins.

Charles Crozier, 73, of Marietta, Ga., said he is a "quasi-independent" Democrat who is undecided on the presidential contest. He likes McCain on energy issues, including his call for more nuclear energy. But he prefers Obama’s stands on economic issues.

Crozier, who is white, said race is not a factor in his thinking. He said he’s not sure "how much of an issue it is for (other) people" in his community. It frustrates him to hear people incorrectly state that Obama (who is Christian) is a Muslim because they read it on the Internet.

"I’m old enough to know a lie repeated often enough becomes the truth," Crozier said. "You can’t change their minds."

Racial progress in America is undeniable on many fronts. But millions of white and black Americans still barely interact at all, bringing the very term "race relations" into question.

"There’s still a lot of estrangement out there" between the races, said David Bositis, who writes about racial matters at the Washington-based Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies. "There’s still an enormous amount of segregation."

Even with sophisticated polls, it’s hard to measure the progress, or lack of progress, in race relations.

"The prior forms of racism, with hindsight, were relatively easy to deal with," said Kenneth O’Reilly, who has written books on racial politics and now teaches history at Milwaukee Area Technical College. He cited slavery, lynchings and legal and de facto segregation.

Now, he said, racial prejudices and grievances are more subtle. "If you ask 100 people what is the main color line problem today," he said, "you get 100 answers."

The AP-Yahoo News poll of 2,227 adults was conducted Aug. 27-Sept. 5, and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2.1 percentage points. It was designed to plumb people’s racial attitudes, and particularly how those attitudes affect voting.

The survey used the unique methodology of Knowledge Networks, of Menlo Park, Calif., including questions about how well words like "friendly" or "violent" describe blacks; having respondents type sensitive answers into computers, which tends to make them more honest; and using brief flashes of faces of people of different races to detect that people may not be aware they have.

Stanford University political scientist Paul Sniderman said that in today’s society, racial prejudice "is a deep challenge, and it’s one that Americans in general, and for that matter, political scientists, just haven’t been ready to acknowledge fully."

For minority candidates such as Obama, he said, "there’s a penalty for prejudice, and it’s not trivial." If the presidential contest remains close, he said, racial prejudice "might be enough to tip the election." 

The New Racial Divide (Poll Shows Gap Between Blacks And Whites Over Racial Discrimination)

Los Angeles, California — I was at the corner of Wilshire and Western on Thursday, September 11, 2008. The famous Wiltern Theater is at the corner of Wilshire and Western also. The Wiltern has singers and music bands from all over the world come and play, and the Wiltern also has plays and musical plays that are held there also. It was a nice day outside and it was 5 something pm. At the corner of Wilshire and Western there are bus stops and the Subway train. Standing at a bus stop was a homeless black man he had Carmel brown skin, he looked like he was in his forties, a full beard about 4 inches long, blue jean pants, and a blue jacket.

I have seen this homeless man walking around various parts of the city before. This time he was standing there and it looked like he was waiting on the bus. He was talking to himself also. Then this white guy just so happen to be less than 30 feet away. The white man had blond hair that semi yellow, pinkish white skin, looked like he was in his forties, shorts, and a black jacket.

The black guy looks at him and stares at him and starts calling him a peckerwood. The peckerwood is a racial epithet that is used against whites. The white guy started arguing back letting the black guy know he was not afraid. Then the white crossed the streets along with me and other people.

I felt bad for the white guy it had to be humiliating for him to get called a peckerwood in front of so many non whites. At the same time it was impressive to see that he would not back down and remain silent. As I walked and reflected upon what I had just saw, I said to myself that many blacks before the civil rights movement of the 1960s went through this type of humiliation everyday. What that white man experienced that day was not an everyday occurrence for him. Wherefore, for blacks that was an everyday occurrence to hear whites call you a Nigger and other humiliating names in public.

In this case the white guy said something back to the black guy. But during those days blacks who said something back to whites would be threatened, beaten, arrested, or killed. To be called a racial name or rude names causes a Turning feeling inside of your stomach.

About 30 minutes later I went back to the corner and crossed the street, and as I stood at the steps of the subway the white guy came walking by. I stopped him and said excuse me, I saw what happened between you and that man, and I am sorry that you had to go through that. I then said that man is homeless, and has a lot of problems in his life, and has had some unpleasant experiences in this country that makes him that way.

The white guy said you know I had some problems earlier today with some gang members by my house so I not in the mood to be bothered with other people like that man. We talked a little more he was very friendly we sad our good byes and went our separate ways.
I feel that by me letting him know that some one did care about his well being regardless of his ethnicity it helps him see — that not all blacks and mixed race people who are mixed with black are bad. 

There was a side of me also that was thinking about being a mixed race man. When I first saw these two men arguing there was a moment when I felt awkward. I felt like I am mixed with white and black, and here are two men one black and one white arguing. I did not want to take sides either. I reflected on that situation a little more when I was headed home, and I understood both the hidden anger of the black and why he did not like the white man and maybe whites in general.

I understood the white man feelings of why are you attacking me verbally I have done nothing to you. The black man had experienced a lot of racial discrimination in America at the hands of whites socially. I being a mixed race man have suffered the same racial discrimination because my phenotype (physical appearance) shows visible signs of black ancestry.

At the same time I understand what it is like to be seen as a type of white person — because of showing visible signs of white ancestry. Many blacks feel that those who are mixed race people who are called light skin blacks think that they are better — because their skin is lighter due to white ancestry, biracial, or mixed with another ethnic group.  

Blacks who view mixed race people this way see those mixed race people as a type of white people in characteristics. Examples mixed people always want to be in positions of power over blacks, they think they are better just like whites think they are better than blacks and other non whites, mixed people feel superior to blacks, etc these are just some of the opinions that blacks have of mixed race people. (who race mixed with black and white or black and some other ethnic groups but especially those mixed with black and white).

Whites on the other hand view mixed race people like myself as black, see us as members of the black race and all of the unpleasant stereotypes that blacks have are transferred to the mixed race people. So I understand both the positions of whites and blacks. Understanding them both helps me be more neutral and more of a peace maker.